The Enigma Of Turnovers – Reprised

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Almost a year ago, I began an overly ambitious project to work out what stats were the most important in determining wins and losses. It was a project that I haven’t had time to finish, but I do have some very interesting results, most of which have never been published.

Clearly the most eye-opening results were those about turnovers. Comparing wins to turnover differential was perhaps the most unexpected Null I’d ever seen. I referenced this series of articles a couple days ago, but I’d published the original results so long ago I couldn’t even easily find a link to point you them. So I decided to sum up those articlesm giving you the cliff-notes version.

In case you  aren’t familiar with what R² means, this shows that there is absolutely no correlation between wins and turnovers. This result completely busts the myth that good teams tend to force turnovers while bad team tend to turn the ball over a lot. It just isn’t true.

The problem here is that I was looking at the effect on wins from turnovers over the course of an entire season, and not on any one game. To do that, I looked at every single game played in the NFL over a 10 year span, and the results were equally interesting. Just examining the data, pre-analysis demonstrated something interesting.

While the team that won the turnover battle did win more games than the team on the other side of the ledger, it was clearly not the all-important stat that the NFL pundits would have you believe it is.

Another thing that is common heard by so-called football experts is the “fact” that turning the ball over with automatically lead to losing. That isn’t the case either. The winning team averaged just over one turnover.

The best way to determine the true importance to turnovers on the result of one game is to look at how the probability of winning is effected by them. Here is the first and only time that the data indicates that turnovers are even the least bit related to wins and losses.

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  • HanleyBonynge

    This is very interesting and follows along with a lot of my un-statistically substantiated beliefs on what matters during a game and season.  You were kind of hinting at it toward the end, but I think timing of turnovers matters.  Not just late in the game because the QB is taking chances, but rather, a turnover committed in the fourth quarter of a close game when there is still a chance to get the ball back, but consequently, the onus is now on the defense to prevent the now-offensive team from scoring.  It might be interesting to see what fourth quarter turnovers do to win probability as opposed to turnovers at other times in the game.  Also  season-to-season turnover margins for a team tend to form a bell curve and when in the tails you have a large win or loss season but it because teams will statistically tend toward the mean, a high positive turnover season, is a good indicator that the next season will be more “average” in record and turnovers.  Math nerd, out.

  • Hawkman

    What would be REALLY great to know would be  where the turnover occurs on the field and most importantly a break down of the same by at least the halfs but better yet by quarter. Not asking you to do that , I just think that would show more actual determination of effect of the turnover.
    Thanks for the info.

  • Sammy

    Part of the reason is that some turnovers are meaningless, such as late half/game interceptions on hail mary passes, and 4th down interceptions that are no worse than a punt with a good return.